What to remember from the interview with Emmanuel Macron at Brut media

What to remember from the interview with Emmanuel Macron at Brut media
What to remember from the interview with Emmanuel Macron at Brut media
“I want this committed generation to be a generation of doing, of action (…). I want to be an ally.” Emmanuel Macron granted, Friday, December 4, an interview of more than two hours to Brut (of which Franceinfo is a partner).

Health situation linked to Covid-19, police violence, ecology, but also integration into a job market affected by an unprecedented crisis : the Head of State took advantage of this exchange on this online media, popular with young people and an audience less receptive to traditional media, to sweep a large number of subjects. Franceinfo summarizes for you what to remember.

On police violence: “No police officer commits to take blows or to give them”

The interview began by referring to the violent evacuation by the police of a migrant camp at Place de la République, in Paris, on 23 November. The images of this event had provoked a lively controversy. “I would not want to overwhelm the police officers who intervened that evening, who are confronted with all forms of violence in society“, began the President of the Republic. “Was it necessary to remove the tents ? Yes, it is not normal that there are tents in the streets of France. Should we do it without a hosting solution? ? Non.”

“Whenever there is a problem, I question the minister and the prefect “, said the head of state about this evening. “The reaction must be fair and proportionate. There will be sanctions on the police hierarchy, at a high level”, he promised, while clearing the Minister of the Interior, Gérald Darmanin, and the Paris police prefect, Didier Lallement.

Emmanuel Macron then spoke more broadly about the issue of police violence, which returned to the center of the debate after the beating of producer Michel Zecler by three police officers. Or rather “violence by the police”, an expression he said he preferred to that of “police violence”, which according to him became “slogan”.

“I have no problem repeating the term ‘police violence’ but I deconstruct it, because it has become a slogan for people who have a political project. There are police officers who are violent, that must be sanctioned. “

“I expect the police to set an example. But we shouldn’t just have a look at violence”, added the Head of State, who insisted at length on the violence against the police, which he said came from “blacks blocs and part of the far left”. Emmanuel Macron notably denounced the violence against a policewoman “attacked by madmen”, “wild people”, during the demonstration in Paris against the proposed law “global security”.

On discrimination and facies checks : a platform “set up from January”

The Head of State was then questioned about the discrimination experienced by non-white populations, in particular from the police. “The problem is not resolved, despite my commitments [de campagne], recognized Emmanuel Macron. “Today, when you have a skin color that is not white, you are much more controlled (…) You are identified as a problem factor and it is unbearable”, he regretted.

To improve things, a national platform for reporting discrimination, managed by the state, the Defender of Rights and associations like Licra, will be launched in January, announced Emmanuel Macron.

On the proposed law “global security” : “Yes, journalists and citizens will be able to continue filming and broadcasting images of the police”

Asked by the Brut journalist Rémy Buisine, used to covering social movements and recently struck down by the police, the Head of State referred to the debate on article 24 of the “comprehensive security” bill.

The object of much criticism for weeks, this article plans to penalize the malicious distribution of images of the police. For the moment neutralized, it could be integrated into the bill “separatism” and the fight against “radical Islamism”, presented on December 9 in the Council of Ministers, recognized Emmanuel Macron.

“When we see the turmoil that this creates, it is not a good road. Tomorrow, journalists and citizens will be able to continue filming the police. We are in a country of freedom.”

Believing that France “was caricatured” in the debate on this subject, the President of the Republic affirmed “not being able to let it be said that we are reducing freedoms in France”. “It’s a big lie. We are not Hungary or Turkey”, he cried, considering that the debate “has been contaminated by militant speech, hostile to the government and to your servant”.

On identity and “separatism”: “We are the generation that must overcome” colonization

Asked about the bill “reinforcing republican principles” (better known as the bill against “separatism”), the Head of State spoke more broadly about questions of integration and identity. “We have repressed the foreign languages ​​of the diasporas”, regretted Emmanuel Macron, evoking the “extraordinary potential” embodied by “young people who speak Arabic, African languages ​​or Turkish”.

“What I want to do is put the teaching of Arabic back into the Republic to prevent it from being hijacked by others.”

The President of the Republic then spoke of the feelings of the last generation from immigration, “who talks about colonization again when she has never experienced it”. [Cette génération] rebuilds its membership because the Republic could not tell it: ‘You have a place there, you are us’ and that is our mistake “, recognized Emmanuel Macron.

“We are the generation that must overcome this”, engaged the Head of State, believing that France should “finish the historical work on the Algerian war”. He recalled in particular that a report on this subject had been requested from the historian Benjamin Stora. This work “will allow the reconciliation of memories”.

On the Covid-19 epidemic: “new exceptional aid” envisaged for young people

Recalling that 6.5 billion euros had already been committed for youth to face the economic crisis linked to the Covid-19 pandemic, Emmanuel Macron announced that the executive would “without a doubt” work on a “new exceptional aid” in January for young people in precariousness. This would be aid of 150 euros similar to that already paid a few weeks ago. A “improvement of the scholarship system” is also being studied, the Head of State acknowledging the persistence of “holes in the racket” on this topic.

Questioned on a return of students to campuses, the president also assured that the government would “do everything to be able to start a little earlier in January, to reopen tutorials and [cours en] half-lecture halls “ in universities, “early January” if the evolution of the epidemic is favorable.

Finally mentioning the imminent arrival of vaccines against Covid-19, Emmanuel Macron defended his choice not to make vaccination compulsory. “It would be counterproductive to impose vaccines that we do not know very well on a pathology that we do not know very well”, justified the Head of State, who added that he would be vaccinated himself “when it makes sense”.

On the climate: the president admits “not having succeeded” on glyphosate, but ensures “not to have lessons to receive”

Contrary to what Emmanuel Macron had promised in November 2017, glyphosate is still not banned in France. Questioned on this question, the Head of State assured that he did not have “change of opinion” on this goal, but admitted not having “success” to accomplish it, pleading failure “collective”. Since then, France has set itself the objective of eliminating most of the uses of this weedkiller classified as “probable carcinogen” in 2021, before a total ban in 2023.

“If we forbid [le glyphosate] in France, there is a distortion of competition when the others [pays européens] don’t keep pace with us. It would make us sacrifice our agriculture to fix the problem. “

The tone of the President of the Republic then rose when the subject of the proposals made by the 150 members of the Citizen’s Convention for the Climate was put on the table. “We are working hard to get to the end!” Emmanuel Macron was annoyed, notably reproaching the director Cyril Dion for his remarks encouraging him to keep his word on this subject. “I have 150 citizens, I respect them, but I’m not going to say, ‘What they are proposing is the Bible, the Koran, or whatever!'” he insisted, referring to the fact that the proposals of this Convention had to go through the classic parliamentary process to be adopted.

On menstrual insecurity: a promised response “in the first half of the year”

Evoking the fate of women “who are on the street” and cannot “buy something to protect yourself and something to be worthy”, Emmanuel Macron promised for 2021 “a very concrete answer” to the problem of menstrual insecurity.

Asked about the “free of hygienic protection as voted in Scotland”, the president assured to have “ask us to move forward”. “I do not want to preempt the work of the government but it is something which, in the first half of next year, will have a very concrete answer”, he continued.

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